tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post4719693074694543993..comments2023-12-17T08:36:26.333-08:00Comments on Zainab's Lounge - upfront blogging: The forbidden Rumi - Jalaluddin Rumi EXPOSEDZainabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-62831538956247719002021-05-02T12:14:30.446-07:002021-05-02T12:14:30.446-07:00Ameen :) InshAllah, the teacher and student wil...Ameen :) InshAllah, the teacher and student will both be jumping between the tall flames of Hellfire.Nissmihttp://www.muslimvilla.smfforfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-42287211666782302812021-05-02T12:11:25.236-07:002021-05-02T12:11:25.236-07:00Salaams and many thanks for this link, Nissmi. In...Salaams and many thanks for this link, Nissmi. InshAllah, I will read the relevant parts to learn more about this crook called Rumi. May he rot in hellfire.Zainabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-56831794826946188192021-05-02T12:07:40.987-07:002021-05-02T12:07:40.987-07:00And check that given link at the end.
This Ira...And check that given link at the end. <br /><br />This Iranian author, Shahram Shiva, who is by no means a hater of Rumi, yet writes an "untold story" about him confirming everything Rumi has been suspected of. His relationship with Tabrizi was questionable, and that being the prime cause for people to make up stories to defend him from this extreme embarrassment. Something new mentioned here, Rumi forced his 12-year-old stepdaughter, Kimya, to marry the elderly Shams. That marriage was never consummated is the information from many other sources, reconfirming Shams' sexual orientation, that he wasn't interested in female companionship. So why did Rumi arrange such a marriage? Most likely this marriage of convenience was meant to serve as a cover-up for Rumi's illicit relationship with Shams. It didn't stop there. Shams, though he never had a physical relationship with the supposedly beautiful Kimya, turned out to be a very abusive "husband." It's not documented in what manner he abused her, but he did in many ways through domineering behavior, extreme possessiveness and a tyrannical attitude in every walk of life. He wouldn't even permit her to step out with her mother. Kimya's life became a picture of misery. She died shortly after her marriage, perhaps a year or less. <br /><br />The contents of this link are lengthy, dealing with all facets of the mad poet's life and the erratic behavior of his male lover. Readers can select the information they are looking for. <br />https://www.rumi.net/about_rumi_main.htm Nissmihttp://www.muslimvilla.smfforfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-10924957649291202632021-05-02T11:34:41.788-07:002021-05-02T11:34:41.788-07:00Right HM. Unfortunately yes, that's what's...Right HM. Unfortunately yes, that's what's happening. His fans will do anything to defend him, even with the absurdest of reasons and ideas.Zainabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-8547263286178650572021-05-02T11:32:33.869-07:002021-05-02T11:32:33.869-07:00It's shocking how Rumi fans defend his repugna...It's shocking how Rumi fans defend his repugnant mindset as "wrong translations" of his works, as if the depth of his Sufism was misunderstood. Excuse me but no. In a nutshell and to be brazenly candid, Rumi was a rake. He tried his best through his works not to give anyone a reason to revere him, yet idiots do just that. His style of writing had no depth, but plenty of eagerness to display his carnal desires with metaphors and analogies in the name of Sufi spiritualism. No Sufi has yet in the entire history of this ideology talked or written like Rumi who was hardly a Muslim, his mindset replete with sensuality, he could barely hide the desires within his body while his lewd mind was forever an epitome of disgrace to humanity. His worrisome relationship with his mentor, Shams Tabrizi, compelled Rumi's adult son to get Tabrizi kidnapped and disappeared.Honesty Mattershttp://www.garden.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-41014409594047427752016-11-26T09:24:13.833-08:002016-11-26T09:24:13.833-08:00This shameless lowlife wasn't a normal person....This shameless lowlife wasn't a normal person. And you know, the moronic people made his shrine a place of pilgrimage. Only Allah knows how many people Rumi corrupted into disbelief and depravity. I say pee on his shrine. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-77451071073968102742016-11-26T09:17:27.866-08:002016-11-26T09:17:27.866-08:00Another piece of Rumi's madness I came across ...Another piece of Rumi's madness I came across in Pinterest today. I don't know which collection it's picked from, but the bad stuff reads:<br /><br />"Run from what's comfortable,<br />Forget safety.<br />Live where you fear to live.<br />Destroy your reputation.<br />Be notorious.<br />I have tried prudent planning long enough.<br />From now on, I'll be mad." - Writes Rumi the debauch.<br /><br />DISGRACEFUL! Such are the ones who corrupt the human race.<br /><br />This is the source @ Pinterest.<br />https://www.pinterest.com/pin/390757705142596632/Zainabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-16836536961444527902016-02-06T03:26:15.514-08:002016-02-06T03:26:15.514-08:00Spot on, Sister Ruhi. And I can never cease to fe...Spot on, Sister Ruhi. And I can never cease to feel the shock waves when I think of his claim that he actually said his "mesnevi" is better than the Noble Quran. InshAllah, I pray he is rotting in lowest depth of Hellfire with perverts like the pharaoh and many more.Zainabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-16149453490943576912016-02-06T03:21:44.781-08:002016-02-06T03:21:44.781-08:00The Glorious Quran gives humanity the entire code ...The Glorious Quran gives humanity the entire code of life but Rumi the bugger still doesn't know what he's "supposed to be doing?" Wallahi idiot. And when he says his "soul is from elsewhere," his cheap advocates will claim he means the miracles of Allah. But Rumi is actually spinning his words so the stupid readers will give him the benefit of the doubt claiming he is lost in piety talking about Allah but actually he means something different. What Rumi forgot was that he can dupe the people but NOT Allah.<br /><br />The tomb of this filthy reprobate poet named Jalaluddin Rumi ought to be sprinkled with gutter water. Only Allah knows how many people this man has misguided and is continuing to misguide. This man should rot in Hell!Ruhi Rosehttp://www.muslimvilla.smfforfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-21982663111096107902016-01-28T23:10:09.916-08:002016-01-28T23:10:09.916-08:00exactly ......exactly ......Zainabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-5044629102152194312016-01-28T23:09:32.412-08:002016-01-28T23:09:32.412-08:00True, another sickening bit from that munafiq. And...True, another sickening bit from that munafiq. And platitudes of the same tune babbled by Rumi's pimps & fans are also sung by Hadith lovers to justify that another violation stupid Muslims have fallen in love with. Salsa Khanhttp://www.muslimvilla.smfforfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-87875317332160162022016-01-28T22:59:53.933-08:002016-01-28T22:59:53.933-08:00It's amazing the hard line ignorance some peop...It's amazing the hard line ignorance some people carry in the name of ""appreciating poetry"" which consequently is equated with "intellectualism." <br /><br />Here is another line from one of Rumi's works. It's from some other collection, not that banned one. Yet it smells so foul that the stench would travel half way across the globe. It was quoted by someone at Facebook who obviously appreciates it. Read this line and it literally stinks of waywardness and kufr. Yet dark minds don't get it and keep repeating "MashAllah" like a broken record.<br /><br />"All day I think about it, then at night I say it. Where did I come from, and what am I supposed to be doing? I have no idea. My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there. — Rumi" <br /><br />Will any human being who has embraced Tawheed (Monotheism), has love for Allah The One and Only ever write this way? All those aspects on which Rumi has flatly cast doubts have been clearly and articulately confirmed and explained in the Noble Quran leaving no room for uncertainties or confusion. Unfortunately Rumi had no faith in the Almighty, not even the slightest of respect for Him.<br /><br />Rumi pimps and cheerleaders try to cover up such depravity with their usual platitudes ... ""oh, open up your mind .... you don't understand him .. he doesn't mean what you are thinking ... he was a profound thinker .. his thoughts went deep in the remembrance of God ....."" and so on. These intellectual frauds who try to dupe others only dupe themselves as did Rumi himself. There's nothing deep about this cheap repugnance. Heathens like Richard Dawkins and his co-thinkers will definitely love Rumi. Zainabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-19185772014951069562016-01-22T02:19:30.040-08:002016-01-22T02:19:30.040-08:00Correct Salsa. Very succinctly stated.Correct Salsa. Very succinctly stated.Zainabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-40940436061585946882016-01-22T02:18:44.747-08:002016-01-22T02:18:44.747-08:00I also read this historical account from quite a f...I also read this historical account from quite a few sources in my research of this topic.Zainabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-76998997341199764362016-01-22T02:16:37.289-08:002016-01-22T02:16:37.289-08:00I also read in several historical reports that Rum...I also read in several historical reports that Rumi's open homosexuality caused a lot of distress to his family as well. The commonest version of how Rumi's love affair with his male teacher ended is: One day Tabrizi visited Rumi's house. They were together in a secluded room. Soon there was a knock at the door, probably Rumi's servant or a member of his family, to give the message that someone was waiting outside the main door of the house wanting to meet Tabrizi for minute. Tabrizi excused himself and walked out. When he didn't return for over 30 minutes or so, Rumi stepped out to check probably with the intention to call them in. But when he stepped out, there was no one there. That was the last time Tabrizi was seen. It's also commonly opined that Rumi's son had arranged Tabrizi's disappearance because he strongly felt Tabrizi was spoiling his father and ruining his family life. Truth-seekerhttp://www.noreply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-73691327438029104822016-01-22T02:04:57.518-08:002016-01-22T02:04:57.518-08:00The big question here is, why is Rumi's bigges...The big question here is, why is Rumi's biggest diwan, "Diwan-e-Sham Tabrizi" banned in all Muslims countries? Some portions of that diwan are given in this blog which ought to be self-explanatory for any person with an ounce of gray matter in their head along with a shred of conscience. That old man indulged in shirk, and he also claimed all religions to be the same which means he did not differentiate Monotheism (Tawheed) from polytheism which is a very shameful attitude to say the very least! As if all this isn't bad enough, he also indulged in same gender relations with his own teacher of all persons and that was Tabrizi. To make matters still worse, instead of keeping all his deviant ideas & lewd desires personal to himself, he displayed them publicly in long and sickening poems stuffed inside Diwan-e-Shams Tabrizi. No wonder it was a shock and embarrassment to Muslim academics when they found it. They turned red-faced with shame and soon this depraved Diwan was shoved under the rug. The academics mulled through Rumi's entire literary works and nit-picked plenty of racy, bawdy and x-rated stuff in which Rumi tried to decorate profanity with metaphors, behaving like a complete prostitute. He was a real offensive bugger. Salsa Khanhttp://www.noreply.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-3650568215224415152016-01-16T23:58:49.367-08:002016-01-16T23:58:49.367-08:00What 'rudeness'?? ...... Hey daktar maleek...What 'rudeness'?? ...... Hey daktar maleek, why r u ""judging"" ????? Rafay-Rafayhttp://www.muslimvilla.smfforfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-22911273965186479272016-01-16T23:55:12.468-08:002016-01-16T23:55:12.468-08:00Slight correction there. We are not depraved "...Slight correction there. We are not depraved "enuf" to accept praises of a male tramp highlighting his carnal desires via his shameless pimps. If lack of intellectualism means rejection of Rumi's x-rated works, then there's nothing as repugnant as intellectualism. But you go to the depth of shamelessness by perverting the concept of intellectualism as well.<br /><br />Goodbye "unknown" sicko. Don't thank us. It's a pleasure to be rude to critters like yourself. <br /><br />Laughing Foxhttp://www.muslimvilla.smfforfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-66311360538546990552016-01-16T22:12:50.392-08:002016-01-16T22:12:50.392-08:00Thank you for rudeness clearly you're not inte...Thank you for rudeness clearly you're not intellectual enuf to accept criticism.<br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12297206076342129872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-74721038817448863772016-01-09T21:12:59.559-08:002016-01-09T21:12:59.559-08:00""Don't judge"" is the 21s...""Don't judge"" is the 21st century axiom to distract, stifle and glamorize injustice in the garb of "tolerance" by the intolerant who judge the most. If one's mere opinion happens to be the odd one out within the crowd, it promptly & fervently gets the seal ""you're judging."" And as you are being judged for "judging," the accusation by your judgmentalists (in this case dr. malek aka 'unknown') conveniently conceals their own blasted judgementalism!<br /><br />Now kindly get out of our blog and leave Sister Zainab alone. All future comments championing the cause of Rumi will be deleted because they're all repetitions of the same old hocus-pocus frownings which have already been responded to in our earlier comments in this thread.<br /><br />According to our assessment and opinion (aka ""j-u-d-g-e-m-e-n-t"") Rumi is NOT a decent person and plenty of his poems are flatly vulgar that cannot be read before women and children. If you disagree, that's your concern. If you indulge in slams & knocks at our blog as you've been doing, then you are the real jugementalist ... and of course you have already proven that via your previous two comments. <br /><br />Don't forget,this is our blog and thus our boundary. You are the unwanted intruder - judging to judge us. Walaykum As-Salam. Truth-Seekerhttp://www.muslimvilla.smfforfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-10948353549839816272016-01-09T00:09:18.654-08:002016-01-09T00:09:18.654-08:00Salam Sis Zainab
As you mentioned: "In this a...Salam Sis Zainab<br />As you mentioned: "In this article, we are NOT judging anyone. "<br /><br />How many times have mentioned the word kufr upon Rumi in your article?<br /><br />And yet you said not judging anyone?<br /><br />Imam Shafii has mentioned in one of his doa: Oh my Lord for I have sins that's beyond any human imaginations however I know your mercy is beyond infinity.<br />Allah knows best.<br /><br />To insult ones imperfections clearly opens you own wrongful doings privately.<br /><br />Forgive me if I'm too blunt on my remarks. But your discernment allows others to do the same unto you.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12297206076342129872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-63253221241676217752015-12-04T23:00:51.928-08:002015-12-04T23:00:51.928-08:00That's the right thing to do Sister Zainab. T...That's the right thing to do Sister Zainab. Thank you.Ruhi Rosehttp://www.muslimvilla.smfforfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-11793599725587449842015-12-04T22:53:06.124-08:002015-12-04T22:53:06.124-08:00Yes Ruhi .... all his future comments will be dele...Yes Ruhi .... all his future comments will be deleted.Zainabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606734661595988955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-39744083279552762262015-12-04T22:52:02.646-08:002015-12-04T22:52:02.646-08:00This sick beast Intaj Malek thinks his boisterous ...This sick beast Intaj Malek thinks his boisterous filth makes him appear "modern & intelligent." This is a Quran-alone blog, NOT your damn Gujarat. Therefore your bawdy and licentious bullshit are NOT wanted here. Ruhi Rosehttp://www.muslimvilla.smfforfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299136808942706928.post-80789190588324478792015-12-04T21:21:11.553-08:002015-12-04T21:21:11.553-08:00This intellectual phony named Intaj Malek who blin...This intellectual phony named Intaj Malek who blindly judges and accuses good people of "perversion" is himself even a bigger pervert than Rumi, who felt it necessary for Shamsi to crack his butt before feeling ready to write those repugnant paragraphs filled with passive vulgarity for perverts like Intaj boy to enjoy. What else can one expect from a person living in a country of heathens called India where eating beef can give you a death sentence but drinking cow piss is supposed to be the 'nectar of life.' Of course Intaj boy will argue on that otherwise Mr. fanatic Modi will teach him what "narrow thinking" actually means. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com