Who was a greater liar, Bukhari or Abu Huraira?

on February 20, 2010

This blog entry of mine is about defending the exemplary character of the beloved Prophet (SAAW) from yet another massive LIE of those unworthy persons whom the Ummah today cannonizes as ones who can do no wrong.

We all know that in the Noble Quran, Almighty Allah speaks very highly of Prophet Muhammad. The Quran refers to the Prophet as having a "tremendous" character. The Quran tells us that the Prophet has been sent to this world as a mercy for humankind. We know too well that the Prophet (SAAW) had a temperament that was extra-ordinarily kind, understanding and gentle. His leniency towards his wives despite living in a very male dominated society was well known. His deep compassion for the poor, helpless, slaves, children and animals was an established fact of the era.

Yet, in the collection of Bukhari hadith, we find the following narration that is constructed with the most mean spirited intent to promote the radical views of the narrator, or this hadith writer. Below is the shockingly false hadith:

Narrated Abu Hurairah - Rasualullah (SAW) said, "No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl." The Prophet added, "Certainly I wish to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses." (Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 1, Book 11, Hadith # 626)

Think for yourselves. Could the chosen Messenger of Allah, a person as tender hearted as our beloved Prophet (SAAW) give orders to carry out arson .. burning the homes of those who for whatever reasons didn't or couldn't go to the masjid for Fajr and Isha prayers? When the Noble Quran clearly states that "there is no compulsion in religion," could the Prophet violate this dictate and the other similar Quranic ethics and give instructions to commit such an act? Of course the answer is NO, NEVER.

I ask these people who shamelessly write such blatant falsehoods that is this their way of encouraging people to visit the mosque? And is this their method of highlighting the importance of Fajr and Isha salaah? Lying about anyone or anything is bad enough. Lying about a person who was chosen as special by Almighty God is an act beyond my comprehension! It can only be done by those who never had a conscience and were never interested in acquiring it.

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AnonymousOctober 23, 2010 at 5:19 AM
As-salam alaikom.

We can not invalidate a hadith and call Bukhari or Abu Huraira (companion of the Prophet) liers relying just on our personal interpretation, it needs a scientific method, the same method that Scholars use, because sometimes the Prophet don't speak literally, maybe he just wants us to understand the importance of prayer in the mosque.

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ZainabOctober 26, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Walaikum Salaam ..
It's not about "personal interpretation." It's about possessing just 2 brain cells to understand what we read in the Ahadith is a pack of humbug and a violation of the Glorious Quran. E.g. If a friend of yours writes a comment about you in which he abuses you and gossips about you falsely, you will simply read it, understand it and tell him that he's a liar. Or, will you need to take it to a "scholar" and ask him to use a "scientific method" to prove that he's liar? Majority of Abu Huraira's ahadith doesn't even contain common sense, science being a far cry. Moreover, let's not get into that old crap called "science of hadith." If a nonsense like Hadith can involve "science" then indeed science is a very stupid thing that needs to be abandoned.

I'm sorry but I don't at all agree with you when you say "Prophet didn't speak literally." The Prophet (SAAW) was a very honest and truthful person. The Quran tells us to be honest and reason with people in a manner that's kind & fair. The Quran never commanded the Prophet (SAAW) to threaten people by not speaking literally in order to scare them into performing their religious duties. On the contrary the Quran says "there is no compulsion in religion." And we know for sure that the Prophet (SAAW) obeyed the Quranic dictates meticulously. To say that the Prophet didn't speak literally is yet another insult for our beloved Prophet. It's our imams & scholars who don't speak literally. The Prophet was very truthful, upfront and honest.
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Kidr AmariDecember 29, 2010 at 2:34 PM
No where in the Qur'an does Allah validates any of the 6 Sahih Hadith collectors. The Hadith themselves are not from the Prophet Muhammad. Regardless if there is a socalled Science of Hadith it's still a fact that the Hadith themselves rather they are Sahih or Da'if (weak) are contradicting and inconsistent. We have the Best Hadith, Al Qur'an which is a Standalone book in need of no other outside books.
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AnonymousMarch 14, 2011 at 5:02 AM
Totally agree with you sister! We have made idols of Bukhari and Abu Huraira... and we worship them!

Anyone defending Bukhari book as the source of Deen.. should fully read it from start to end..

Tragedy is the one who will fight you over this to protect the Bukhari book has not yet read it himself.
He is just doing it as being told by his elders thinking
to do the service to Allah and Islam.. Just to protect
the view-point of their respective sects, which they have keenly derived from different so called hadiths from these books other than Holy Quran!
God bless you and keep educating your brothers and sisters in Islam by writing here. Thank you!
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AkramAugust 28, 2011 at 9:36 AM
As-salam alaikum,

I've been reading your blog for quite sometime and find it interesting/precise/honest/innovative/invigorating.......

Well, for this article, I would like to comment or rather should suggest:

Please change the heading of this article. Despite what you ascribe here seems to be quite logical, it's still against our Islamic ethics that we should use such word, "LIAR" for anyone let alone for Sahabas/Buzurgs (astaghfirullah)...

I hope you'll ponder what I'm trying to imply here....if not for me then please consider it for the love of our Prophet Muhammad (sallalaho alayhe wasallam) for he would never have allowed/used such word!!!. Thanks
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ZainabSeptember 4, 2011 at 2:42 AM
Walaikum Salaam brother Akram. I don't think this title is in need of change. While I respect your comments, I think it's pretty off balance. If you agree that Abu Huraira lied about various Ahadith (and none can deny that), he simply becomes a liar. Whether or not anyone is a sahaba or buzurg is irrelevant. Sahabas and buzurgs are not above the law. In fact they should be still more particular of their conduct if they are to be taken as role models for future generations. A lie coming out of the mouth of a sahaba or buzurg is just as repugnant in the Sight of Allah as a lie coming from anyone else. Moreover, the term "liar" is not a swear word nor is it inappropriate provided it's used for someone who has indulged in falsehood or baatil which both Abu Huraira and Bukhari have. For untruthful people, the Glorious Quran also mentions the same word. Whether sahaba or buzurg or whoever, all disbelievers and slanderers are liars and there's no need to blush over it. Slandering the beloved Prophet(S) is not a minor violation. It's a huge violation in the Sigh of Allah and all genuine believers. If those slanderers don't respect my Prophet (S), why should I respect them?
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F.October 17, 2011 at 3:03 PM
For reference purposes how important is prayer in Islam? As you have stated quite repetitively that we should refer to the Quran for answers and not secondary sources, please enlighten, on the importance of prayer from the perspectives of the Quran.

And if you could also mention the number of times its importance has been stressed or mentioned in it.
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ZainabOctober 19, 2011 at 10:34 PM
@ "F" .. As-salaam Alaikum. Prayers are very important or mandatory because the Quran mentions the remembrance of Allah on 5 specific times per day. In fact I've already put a post on that earlier in this blog. Here's the link for it.

"Salaat to be offered five times daily, not thrice:"
http://zainabslounge.blogspot.com/2010/06/salaat-to-be-offered-five-times-daily.html

I've specified that salaat is 5 times, not 3, because some modernists like Free Minders are claiming it's 3 times which isn't correct. The Quran states 5 different timings for it daily.
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ZainabOctober 19, 2011 at 10:35 PM
Sorry, the link cannot be activated here. You will need to copy & post it on your browser. Thanks.
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DenOctober 21, 2011 at 5:25 AM
Salaam!

I just drafted a post re Abu Hurayra, but I pressed a wrong button and it is gone now. Sorry.

Kindly take a peek at my http://www.scribd.com/Tjoaginsing where I posted an article re Abu Hurayra I shall never TRUST! Sorry....
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AnonymousDecember 21, 2011 at 1:43 AM
Sister Zainab,

The Quran we have today, is it the same Quran that was revealed to the Prophet? If yes then what is the proof? If you say that Allah Himself says that he will protect the Quran, which we find in the Quran then how can we take the words of the Quran as proof when he question is whether The Quran is the same Quran? Because all the information about the Quran or the prophet (SAW) we have is through the other sources which are not reliable as I understood after going through your posts.

The doubts that started sprouting in my mind after reading your articles are now taking different shape and increasing in numbers, because till yesterday I was reading and understanding Islam through the prevalent sources.

As you have mentioned in one of your article that there are 5 prayers in specified timings, now are they supposed to be perform on dot or can be performed in a slot of time or period as the practice is prevalent in our society and secondly very important thing HOW to? Whether like Jews do or like Christian or Hindu or Jain or etc. Since the Ahadeeth are not out of the scope of doubt therefore we cannot thrust them so now we are left with no authentic source of information about the prophet (SAW) or his sayings.
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ZainabDecember 21, 2011 at 11:27 PM
@ Anonymous

Very silly questions indeed. What else can I say? The big problem with folks like you is that you ask questions right off the bat, with little or no reflection nor research.

The preservation of the Hadith and the Quran were 2 completely separate issues. To make a long story short, if the Quran was handed over by the same people who narrated and compiled the Hadith, there would be no need to narrate nor compile the Hadith at all. Why? Because in that case all the nonsense we see in the Hadith would have been implemented directly into the Quran just as the Jews & Christians did with their Scriptures. The credit of the originality of the Quran does not go to the so-called Muslims. They would love to change it if Allah hadn't prevented their hands from corrupting it. The credit for it goes entirely to Allah who has promised to protect it in a "guarded tablet" or "Lawh-e-Mahfooz" so that the Quran (being the Final Message) can be a witness against mankind on the Day of the Tryst.

Yes specific timings are mentioned in the Quran for prayers. Aren't you aware of the time range of the different parts of each day we spend? Uptil sunrise when the slightest of brightness start to appear in the atmosphere is dawn (fajr). From 12 noon begins the early afternoon period (dohr). From approximately 4 p.m. until about 15 minutes prior to sunset is late afternoon (asr), from sunset until dark is maghrib, and from dark until about 30 minutes prior to dawn is nighttime or Isha. Therefore, of course one can pray between the time slot. What's so difficult about this? That's why Allah has mentioned those specific timings so that we can know the approximate stretch of period within which each prayer of the day is valid.
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ZainabDecember 21, 2011 at 11:28 PM
@ Anonymous

.... continued ..

Concerning the method of prayer, I learned my prayers from the Quran. The physical gestures mandatory in prayers are ruku, sajood, reciting Fatiha (7 oft repeated verses as stated in the Quran) and reciting whatever of the Quranic Surahs one can remember. All this is asserted in the Quran. That's all we require. Other than this, everything included in salat is subjective. E.g. I may offer 2 rakahs for fajr as I deem mandatory. Someone else might decide upon 8. Neither can be argued upon as right or wrong. Both have to be accepted. In fact, despite the Hadithist boast that Hadith teaches prayer, Muslims all over the world of different sects and madhabs differ in their method of prayer except for ruku, sajood, reciting Fatiha and the recitation of brief Surahs which are the standard requirements for all.

Secondly, the reason why the Quran does not emphasize on the physical method of salaat is because the method already existed in the Arabian society. It had already been introduced and was being practiced from the time of Prophet Ibrahim (pbuh), 4000 yrs prior to the coming of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). But during those thousands of years, the Arabs gradually corrupted the ideology of Monotheism (Tawheed) and drifted toward polytheism. Thus, even though the pagans continued offering their prayer in much the same physical method as taught by Prophet Ibrahim, their prayer was not directed toward Allah, The One and Only. Instead they prayed either directly to their 350 idols or used these idols as intercessors. This was the BIG MISTAKE they made which ruined the ideology of Monotheistic Faith. The purpose of the Quran regarding salaat is to correct the ideology of prayer, not the method. The method already existed. The purpose of the Quran concerning prayer is to inform the people that their ruku & sajood must be directed to Allah alone and NONE else.
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ZainabDecember 21, 2011 at 11:39 PM
@ Anonymous

.... continued ..

The linguistic beauty, the consistency of logic, the scientific & historical prophecies, the impartiality and flawless concept of justice are among few of the many evidences of the Divine status of the Glorious Quran.

I think you first need to ask yourself, how strong is your own faith in the Monotheistic ideology. If that's weak, then you are wasting your time and my time putting these very discrepant questions here. My blog is for believers, not for skeptics. If someone is a waverer with a heart full of doubts, all I can say is may Allah grant them guidance. If you are in doubt, I cannot help you. Nothing that I say will lessen your doubts not seem sufficient as a response .. unless you reflect for yourself upon the Quran by reading it regularly with a contrite heart. Thus, Allah Almighty says in the Quran to the Prophet (s) "Lo! thou (O Muhammad) guidest not whom thou lovest, but Allah guideth whom He will. And He is Best Aware of those who walk aright."

And the guidance of Allah is granted to those whom He considers worthy of it, those who work hard to understand the truth and successfully fend off Satanic temptations to doubt the facts.

Some useful links are as follows: You might need to copy & paste the URLs in your browser.

http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=938.0
(Compilation of the Glorious Quran).

http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=2895.0
(Hadith conspiracy against Quranic compilation).

http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=2302.0
(Reasons why the Noble Quran doesn't the 'detailed' method of salaah)

Salaam and peace.
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AnonymousDecember 28, 2011 at 6:16 AM
Sister it would be better if you would have responded to my queries with a positive attitude and if you have not address me as an idiot or stupid I would have taken your reply with more respect and open heart… No hard feelings “Lakum deenakum waleyadeen”

By the way can you provide me the reference from the Quran for the salah timing – not exactly timings, that you have already provided, but the detail you have provided about the periods of different salah –

“From 12 noon begins the early afternoon period (dohr). From approximately 4 p.m. until about 15 minutes prior to sunset is late afternoon (asr), from sunset until dark is maghrib, and from dark until about 30 minutes prior to dawn is nighttime or Isha”

Next how and from where you got this knowledge that:

“walaqad ātaynāka sabʿan mina l-mathānī (And certainly We have given you seven of the oft-repeated) [Quran 15:87]”

Is referring to Surah Al-Fatiha, and not the other surahs with 7 verses?
Or “Seven of the often repeated” could be anything.

Secondly how have you reached to a conclusion that the Opening Chapter of the Quran should be recited in every prayer, from the above mentioned ayah? Plz enlighten me. Because I couldn’t find, anywhere in the Quran, that you should recite Surah Al-Fatiha in every Salah.

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“The writings of the Noble Quran were the most precious possession of the Prophet and his family. These were preserved extremely carefully during the lifetime of the Prophet, and soon after he passed away, the complete set of the Quranic revelations written on parchments, leather sheets and paper were taken under the care of Abu Bakr and other close members of the Prophet's family. The safe keeping of the Quran was strictly within the Prophet's family after his (pbuh) death and that too for a short time because it soon began being compiled in the reign of Omar bin Khattab and the compilation was compelted by Usman bin Affan, the second and third righteous caliphs, respectively.” [http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=938.0 ]
Plz enlighten me with the source of information, and who told you that everything was pen downed in the life time of the prophet (SAW) and then later on was compiled by His (SAW) successors.

Rgds,

Brother in Islam
Faizan
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ZainabJanuary 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM
As-salaam Alaikum. @ Faizan, first of all I didn't call u an "idiot." Instead of asking me for proof of Allah's Book, you first look to yourself and give me proof of your lie by accusing me of not responding with a "positive attitude." I said your question was "silly" and there's a big difference between a "silly" question and being an "idiot." But your sulky temperament coupled with your silly questions have now given me enough reason to think that you are really an idiot. Not just an idiot, but you are also extremely impertinent, in that, you don't even believe that the Quran was compiled honestly by the close members of the Prophet's family and instead you need proof for that. You never asked for proofs for the lies written in Hadith but u do need proof for the Quran. Yes, "Lakum deen akum walay ya deen." To you your religion and to me my religion. I am a Muslim, a submitter to Allah alone and I have nothing to do with people like you whose hearts are full of doubt about Allah's final Message.

If you get rid of your laziness and do some research as I did you, you'll find plenty of info regarding compilation of the Quran. So pull up your socks and start doing your homework instead of asking me these unnecessary questions. If the Quran was not compiled by the close members of the Prophet's family & friends, then who compiled it? You? or me? or a thief like Abu Hurairah who came to Medinah when he was 25 years old and spent only 2 years in the Prophet's lifetime? Then who compiled it???? And if the Quran was not compiled on leather sheets & parchments intially, then where else would it be written? To be honest, I have no patience with super dumb ones like yourself. You people simply get on my nerves.

How do I know surah Fatiha must be repeated in every prayer? This is another very retarded question. The expression "seven of the oft repeated verses" ... what do you think it means? "Oft repeated" means those verses which are recited everytime. The reference is to prayer. Thus, it means the Surah with seven verses which are recited in prayers everytime. Which Surah has seven verses and it's compulsory for recitation in every salat? If not Fatiha then which one? Use your common sense. I cannot make it any simpler.

Salaat to be offered five times daily, not thrice. Check the salat timings here. If you don't understand it and I know you won't, then that's your problem. I am not going to answer nor publish any more questions from you.
http://zainabslounge.blogspot.com/2010/06/salaat-to-be-offered-five-times-daily.html

I repeat, your questions are too sub-standard which waste too much of my time and spoil my day. I will not accept them in future.

Thank you.
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ZainabJanuary 8, 2012 at 2:26 PM
@ Faizan. Continued ..

Here's the most important issue about the preservation of the Quran. It supersedes compilation. Allah, The Exalted, has stated that the Noble Quran is in a "guarded tablet" or Lawh-e-Mahfooz. This is mentioned in more than one verse. This means that it will be retained in its original till the Day of Resurrection. Hence, Allah Almighty has categorically confirmed that He has Himself taken the responsibility to protect the Quran from getting corrupted by human hands as had happened earlier with the Old and New Testaments. This Divine promise has been true to His last words uptil today. We have seen it for ourselves. It's now been 1,433 years and the Quran is still one-hundred percent original, and will remain so until the end of time, as asserted by Allah.

Compared to this, there is no such thing as a Divine guarantee to preserve all those nonsensical collections called Ahadith. Thus, no wonder we see the Ahadith to be in a total mess! Apart from the fact that it's full of mistakes, contradictions, slanders, vulgarities and gossips .... every decade at least a thousand new ahadith are scribbled by the imams and so-called scholars and infiltrated into the various collections by being falsely attributed to the Prophet. For that reason, new ahadith pop up every generation. Many of those ahadith which were known to our parents were not known to our grandparents. Many of those ahadith known to us were not heard by our parents. Similarly, many ahadith which our children will learn will be new to us. That's because the Hadith institution is highly corrupted. It's the opposite of the Quran which is preserved from the time of its revelation until the Last Day.

The Hadith is exactly like the Christian and Jewish bibles. Just like these various collections of the bibles are full of tales and myths written by the priests and so-called saints and falsely pinned up on Prophet Jesus, son of Virgin Maryam, similarly the Ahadith narrated by so-called sahabas (many of whom the Prophet had never even met) and later compiled & edited by the imams were falsely attributed to the Prophet. In fact there are Ahadith which even falsely claim to be the words of Allah, by calling itself Hadith Qudsi. InshAllah, Allah Almighty will punish these liars on the Day of Judgment.

Not to mention, even the contents of the Hadith are largely borrowed from the Bibles. E.g. Stoning for adultery, return of Jesus, suicide being a sin, portraying black dogs as devils etc. etc. are the type of rubbish found in Hadith directly taken from the bibles. Thus, the counterpart of the Bible & Torah is the Hadith, NOT the Quran. The Hadith followers are basically following Christianity.

I'm sure for a man with a mind as limited as yours, this simple issue which Allah has clarified in the Quran about its preservation would be too difficult to understand. Your question would again be to bring "proofs" as to why I say the Quran is original. If that's the question bubbling in your mind, then just keep it there. Don't you dare put such a rude and worthless question on my blog based on your ignorance and careless disrespect for the Noble Quran.
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AnisJanuary 27, 2012 at 4:55 PM
Much wisdom do you hold, Zainab. I have been a sunni my entire life and though being devout, I always felt my faith to be in a state of 'vacuum' so to speak. I knew that my prophet (alledgedly) married a 9 year old and stoned adulterers and it was like a thorn in my feet. Then recently I just came to realise that when you throw away all the Ahadiths, you are left with the true religion of faith and peace. No chopping off heads for apostacy which actually contradicts Quran, I will let Allah tell us below.

4.137: Those who believe, then disbelieve and then (again) believe, then disbelieve, and then increase in disbelief, GOD will never pardon them, nor will He guide them unto a way.

I am not much more of a Muslim than I was before, all this from the grace of Allah, the Wise creator of all things. If only these people would understand that Bukhari was the biggest sham islam has ever known. The man claims to have collected/compiled/authenticated 600,000 hadiths in his life, but simple mathematics prove him to be a liar and a composer (muharrif). Give him 1 hour to authenticate each hadith (HUGE underestimation of the real time required, but let's go along shall we?) that means 600,000 hours = 25,000 days = 68 years! 68 years of non-stop hadith compiling and authentication? Did the guy not sleep or eat or drink for a single minute even?!
I laugh at the past, what matters is the present and the future (Yaum A-Ddin).

Please visit an article I wrote about parallels of hadith and Judaism on a Quran-only forum.
http://www.free-islam.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=6315#6315
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ZainabFebruary 1, 2012 at 2:24 AM
Salaam and peace. Right Anis, Hadith is a major liability that has completely distorted our beautiful Faith in the eyes of the world. To further embellish this curse, the modern imams have donned Hadith it with their fatwas. If you read Bukhari and al-Muslim collections, it clearly feel that the compilers and the narrators went baloney to such an extent that they didn't even care to sound decent. And yet, the stupid Ummah, instead of putting these 2 criminals on trial and sending them to the trash can, try to find excuses for their mischief. Instead of abandoning these criminals, the Ummah ostracizes those sincere believers who are wise enough to detect the criminality of the criminals. Wallahi! what a scenario ..
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ZainabFebruary 1, 2012 at 2:50 AM
contd ..

Bukhari was very obviously working for a cause. That cause was to deviate the future generations from the Quran as much as possible. All these Persian compilers travelled to Arabia, learned make-shift Arabic and compiled not just the falsehoods of narrators who had died 150 years ago, but also added to those falsehoods in the name of compilation. Folks like Bukhari, his student Muslim bin Hajaj, Nasai, Tirmidhi, Tabari (the biggest & most shameless cut-throat who gave Salman Rushdie the green light to write "satanic verses") were all Zoroastrians, commonly known as "parsis" in Pakistan. These clumsy parsis had an evil hidden agenda, which was to distort the original Islam and take it back to the pre-Islamic days. Unfortunately they succeeded because the followers of Islam turned out to be such super goons & morons. After falling in love with these parsis, the Ummah forgot that the source of Islam is the Noble Quran and NOT "traditions." The beloved Prophet (s) only said to hold on to the Noble Quran. There was no such thing as "sunnah" during the time of the Prophet.

And of course, Abu Huraira was a confirmed crook and enemy of Allah. First off, all of Huraira's ahadith are narrated by him alone without a witness which is supposed to be a clear violation according to the Hadith rule itself. Yet it is ignored in the case of Abu Huraira as a concession for this thief. Furthermore, Abu Huraira was never known as a man with a super memory. He was an ordinary loafer who loitered and arrived in Medinah from Yemen. He spent barely 3 years in Medinah and during this period he only saw the Prophet (S) and met him formally a few times, let alone spending time in the Prophet's company as his confidant as claimed by the gossip mongers. Nothing of the sort!

The most ridiculous thing was that soon after the death of the Prophet (S), Abu Huraira suddenly & supposedly got a super memory. A brain which was like a PC xt suddenly blossomed into a 486 33Mhz with a CD drive containing a wikipedia of 8,000 Hadith comprising of every word the Prophet spoke. And the Ummah believes it. May Allah Almighty dump these munafiqs in hell to be used as fuel for its fire.

Many thanks for the link brother Anis. I will surely InshAllah read it.
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AnisFebruary 1, 2012 at 2:24 PM
Salam Zainab,

I agree with what you just said 100%, you must be reading my mind! I have already started a youtube channel (NoHadithForMe) in which I vocally try to expose some severe errors in Hadith and generally why I think these people are of doubtful nature. I have recently dedicated a 19 minute video in which I lampoon and make fun of Abu Huraira (father of cats) based on accounts of him which literally expose him to be a liar and a very lowly person. I don't know if you speak Arabic because I chose to make the video in Arabic.

I also found it quite strange that most of these Hadithers were of Persian/Uzbeki origin and that most of them only studied Hadith, nothing else!

Hoping to see more wisdom from you!
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ZainabFebruary 2, 2012 at 5:23 PM
Wa'Salaam Anis. I would be very happy to get the link of your Youtube channel and watch your recent video.

And yes, right. All these suspicious Zoroastrians belonged to the region of Khorasan in the north-east of Persia. In those days, not just Iran but many adjoining areas in the north were collectively known as Persia including the north-east province of Khorasan which comprised largely of Uzbekistan. All of these conspirators (Bukhari, Muslim, Nasai, Abu Dawood, Tirmidhi etc.) were from this region in the north-east. Also 2 out of the founders of 4 madhabs were from north-east Persia, that is, Abu Hanifa and Ahmed bin Hanbal.
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ANisFebruary 3, 2012 at 3:50 AM
I know, it's like soon Muslims will start worshipping fire, hehe!

Here is the link to my video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rlpohG4dTo
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ZainabFebruary 5, 2012 at 7:47 PM
Haha ,, with the kind of unconditional love they have for their imams,I wouldn't that past them, if the imams tell them to do so.

Thanks a lot for the link, brother. InshAllah, I'll enjoy going thru it.
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AnonymousApril 19, 2012 at 2:25 PM
hey sister i want to do a very long discussion with you. My e.mail abdulhamid1991@hotmail.com

You have completely mis understood the religion ( audhu billahi an akuna min al jaheleen).

What kind of insults are you doing to one of the most famous and truhtful sahabas.? And what kind of ignorance and lack of knowledgre? And your terrible and unacceptable views about Bukhari (.

Audhu billahi an akuna min al jaheleen) May Allah forgive your insult to abu hurayra ( ra.) and imam bukhari ( ra.) I invite you to a discussion if you. Ad my mail Abdulhamid1991@hotmail.com.
it will be a peaceful discussion.
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ZainabApril 20, 2012 at 1:32 AM
Abdul Hamid ,, the long discussion is already on this thread of comments. What more discussion do you want? I've had plenty of "long discussions" with folks like you in the past. None of you ever spoke an iota of sense other than condoning your kuffari taught to you by Mr. Bukhari & co. AstaghfarAllah !!!!! And now I've realized that each one of you is more ignorant & stubborn than the previous one in your race to reach Hellfire. Your mind is too pre-conditioned with misguidance for a logical discussion. What matters to you is the pagan tradition of Bukhari, not the truth. Allah will deal with you and your likes on the Day of Judgment. Thank you very much. But I am not interested in the "sunah" of criminals like Bukhari and Abu Huraira. If you think I'm wrong, then have patience and wait until the Day of Judgment. I am patient. It's the Hadithists who frantically keep jumping like frogs. Guilty conscience, eh?
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AnonymousApril 20, 2012 at 8:57 PM
Salaam. This is Heba - member of MV Team.

Abdul Hamid. If you want a long discussion, it's right here.

I quote Verse 9:128 (Surah At-Taubah) of the Noble Quran:

"There hath come unto you a messenger, (one) of yourselves, unto whom aught that ye are overburdened is grievous, full of concern for you, for the believers full of pity, merciful." (9:128).

Read the above verse very carefully. What do you understand from it? Allah mentions the love, concern, sympathy and consideration that the Prophet (pbuh) had in his gentle heart for the believers. Someone as compassionate and considerate as the Prophet (which Allah Himself describes in the Quran) ever tell the believers that if they fail to go to the masjid for Fajr and Isha salat, there homes will be burned??

To justify this bad & false Hadith, some crazy Hadith follower once said that the purpose of its harsh language is to emphasize the importance of going to the masjid for Fajr & Isha. Again wrong! The Noble Quran is about Truth, not oppression. Subsequently, the Prophet preached Truth and not oppression to the believers which has been made crystal clear in Verse 9:128. Therefore, would the Prophet (pbuh) ever state something as cruel and impractical as arson to highlight the importance of salat???? This Hadith is NOT haqq, it is baatil. The Quran rejects baatil completely. Even if you claim to use baatil for something you consider to be a positive cause, the use of baatil as your modus operandi makes that positive cause very, very negative!

Furthermore, why are you hankering after a debate through your personal email. Sister Zainab does not debate through emails. She, and all of us at MV, debate in public so that everyone can see what we're discussing. Therefore, feel welcomed to carry on with your "long discussion" right here BUT stay on topic. The topic of this discussion is why did Abu Huraira narrate such an obnoxious lie and why did Mr. Bukhari compile this nonsense in his collection with the audacity to call it "sahih" ?? We don't want to know about Bukhari's biography and who he was or who Huraira was. We already know all that much better than you. You only learn what your ulemas & sheiks claim about them from their collection of tall stories. But we have done our thorough research and have scooped out all hidden information which your ulemas have been concealing from you since the last 1100 years.
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ZainabApril 20, 2012 at 9:46 PM
Wa'Salaam and many thanks sister Heba for completing my response and making it more comprehensive.
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AnonymousApril 22, 2012 at 3:21 AM
you ARE SUCH A FOOL, dat run away from questions ZAINAB, IF DAT IS UR NAME. la anatu llahi alaihi
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ZainabApril 23, 2012 at 12:58 AM
Anonymous aka "Abdul Hamid" the pinhead ... thanks for making me roll with laughter. You know what's the sign of a guilty person with no courage and no shame? He picks his shortcomings and pins them on the innocent. How deftly you've learned that lesson. What else can one expect from those who have renounced the true Islam and are following the pirated one. You are invited here for a "long disucssion" on this topic that why did that asshole called Bukhari write this lie? You have refused to participate in it because you have no answers and thus no confidence to debate in a public blog .. so you call me to debate through "email" where no one will be able to witness your off topic nonsense. Why should I debate thru email? I don't even know who the crap you are except that you are some lowly disbeliever who wishes to discredit the Noble Quran and the beloved Final Messenger for the sake of protecting a polytheist parsi kafir called Bukhari. All our debates are in PUBLIC. I repeat my question - why did these two criminals of Islam write this lie which is one out of many? Let's see who runs away from question now.
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AnonymousApril 23, 2012 at 1:10 AM
LMFAO ,, Abdul Hamid .. applause !!!!!! You acknowledged your defeat even before you began the discussion along with that old Hadither tantrum of namecalling. What a coward! you have made your fear so obvious and your 'strategy' to save yourself from the embarrassment of your own defeat only dips you further into that pot of feces from where all liars emerge. Go Hadither, find a professional and get some help for your mental health issues of gutlessness and lack of rationale. Only after that can you be considered fit to rejoin the human race.

Heba.
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ZainabApril 23, 2012 at 1:33 AM
OK .. Abdul Hamid got scared and ran away, and to save himself from looking like a clown called me a "fool." He won't debate here, wants me to talk only quietly through his "email." ROFL. This is disappointing Abdul Hamid. I was looking forward to a "discussion" on this thread with you and also invite a few others to join us. I didn't know you were such an anti-social cowardly man, frightened out of your wits to debate in public.

I've kept this comment thread open for a long time. Uptil now no Hadith supporter came up with any logical reason why madman Bukhari and that loafer Huraira indulged in this lie. The readers can see for themselves, go through this thread and make up their own minds. The truth is right before all of you. I repeat, no Hadith joker has been able to answer why Bukhari wrote such an obnoxious lie.

Abdul Hamid's (aka "anonymous") comments are the latest proof & example of the total inability of the uneducated Hadithists to give a logical answer to support their Ahadith bullshit. All of you can see that Abdul Hamid insisted I come and talk thru his email. I and my colleague Heba said we want to talk here on this topic. The moment we said that he chickened out with an insult calling me a "fool." I am sure all you readers can see for yourself who is the real "fool" and coward.

I it's needless to keep the comments open for this blog entry any longer. No hadith follower has the brain nor the knowledge to talk sense. May Allah grant guidance to the Hadith followers even though I think they don't qualify for HIS guidance.
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ZainabSeptember 26, 2012 at 8:37 PM
Comments re-opened.
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AnonymousJanuary 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM
You are completely right Zainab, I agree with you that Abu Huraira is a liar. He's also a misogynist because of his women hating hadiths.
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AnonymousMarch 14, 2013 at 2:24 AM
And in what Hadith other than Allah and His Ayaat will you believe?
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AnonymousApril 14, 2013 at 4:08 AM
You have no adab. To call anyone a liar is a sin and here you have the audacity of calling scholar like Imam Nhukari and companion of Prophet (saw) a liar. You have no hikma, did you meet Abu Huraiyara or Bhukari? How do you know he actually said some of the things. A Muslim must be humble, where is your humility, all i can see is arrogance.
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sadiya hosaonApril 14, 2013 at 4:11 AM
if you hate hadith so much then why spend so much time on it. I agree some are ludicrous but to slam people as liars and other offensive labels is foolish and over the top reaction. Islam teaches tolerance and manners, something that you lack.
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AnonymousApril 14, 2013 at 9:49 PM
Quoting Sadiya Hosaon:
"if you hate hadith so much then why spend so much time on it."
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Cancer researchers spend so much time studying this disease. Does that mean they love cancer? How the f*ck is one supposed to find out the facts and figures of a scourge unless one doesn't spend time to study it?
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AnonymousApril 15, 2013 at 2:55 AM
so is this a website where people are rejecting the sunnah of Prophet (saw).
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sadiyaApril 15, 2013 at 3:06 AM
Zainab it seems you are obsessed with yourself, seriously you need some dose of humility and learn to be come. Allah (swt) has given a free will to all of us and to judge the faith of others is sign of arrogance.

Get this in your head " there are many by mercy of Allah (swt) who know that Quran is over all other books. I find it arrogant and offensive if somone accepts aa hadith that contradicts the Quran and i find it equally offensive when soneone abuses authentic hadiths that do not contradict the Quran and those that abuse the companions of the Prophet (pbuh). Are you a Shia, for abusing the Sahaba is a great past time of the Shias?
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PTApril 15, 2013 at 8:22 PM
THERE'S NO POINT IN ADMITTING THESE PEOPLE HERE. THEY ARE NOT DISCUSSING BY PICKING THE POINTS MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLES. INSTEAD THEY ARE ONLY HURLING PERSONAL INSULTS BY CALLING US "ARROGANT, FOOLISH, INTOLERANT" WITH THREATS LIKE "MIND YOUR TONGUE" ETC. AS IF ANYONE CARES FOR THEM.

SISTER ZAINAB, KINDLY BLOCK THEM.
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AnonymousApril 15, 2013 at 9:12 PM
Hey Sadiya! A recent fatwa by one of your Hadith following Imams in Cairo has banned all you women from touching bananas and cucumbers. Why? What have you naughty ladies been doing with yourselves?

http://sheikyermami.com/2011/12/07/sexual-bananas-cucumbers-verboten/
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AnonymousApril 16, 2013 at 2:08 AM
lol, rofl .... these Hadith walas are such clowns. They have really made a fool of themselves this time. You will always notice this ,,,,, their standard reproach is picking on others' manners as if they have very good manners themselves. They have nothing else to say except things like "is this the way you talk to a Muslim?" "don't you have respect?" "don't you have adab?" "don't you have anything to do?" "you are so intoleran?t" etc. etc. They only say these type of things because the are too unintelligent and uneducated to discuss a topic. Ignorance is their lot.

Let me tell you something. In this thread you Hadith walas have been treated with a lot of respect, much more than you deserve. What do you expect? Do you really expect any decent human being to treat you like VIPs when you have fallen so low that you don't even nurture any shame giving your support to munafiqs and the enemies of Allah?

Yes, we have no respect for people like you, Hadisers and kuffar. Everyone else we respect very much. But Hadisers and kuffar we don't respect. They are fuckers.
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PTApril 16, 2013 at 7:53 PM
Yes, kick out all hardline Hadisers. It's pointless talking to them. Since they are reprobate people with plenty of time to quarrel and spread fitna, they can go on and on because this is their job - to seek fitna through baatil and reject Haqq by concealing it. They have again proven it here as clear as daylight.
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AnonymousApril 22, 2013 at 12:39 AM
Salam Sister Zeinab and colleagues. This is some information. Last week while talking to some friends, somebody said that there is a hadees that warns of burning homes of community dwellers if they don't go to the masjid for fajr and isha prayers. and I kinda felt faint .... like what ? no way. The Quran says that the prophet pbuh was sent as mercy to humanity. how could such a great and humble man say a thing like that ? my brother helped me to calm up. he said this is hadees, the Muslim bible. it's a human construction. not prophet's words. so don't put anything past it. just as you find so much absurdity in christian and jewish bibles cause they been changed by people, hadees is the same story. then things started to fall in place in my mind. we did google search to find this hadees. your place, both blog and forum, was right there. reading it finally soothed me to realize that our religion is beautiful, its the people who mar it. this is prize clarification. otherwise newcomers can get thrown off the track with shock and disgust at the enormities carried in hadees. I have read several hadees of bukhari and muslim but not the whole collection. I was told that if i explore it, i will find worse ones than this. Allah have mercy and protect us from shaitan. why do people lie so much in the name of Allah and prophet?
Thank u for your work and time sister. the wealth of info here attracts me.
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UnknownApril 22, 2013 at 3:50 AM
My simple comment is: People have started believing in Hadees, more then QURAN and when you debate with them thaey start questioning authenticity of Quran (Nazubillah. We as muslims are doing nothing different then what Jews and Christians did to Holy BOOK. Only thing is that we cannot change Quran, so they brought in Hadees to brain wash people.

People even don't know that all Hadees collectors where Persian and not Arabic. So, this was all about corrupting the Arabs at that time and now religion itself is badly effected by it.
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amrazaApril 23, 2013 at 12:53 AM
Peace and blessing of Allah be upon those who strive for truth and act accordingly.
Dear Zainab.I am very much enlightened by your blog and I did not just stumble upon it rather it was my searching of the truth and finding as to why Islam is the most divided religion on earth today?and have come to the conclusion that all this is due to the 4 Imams and subsequent books of Hadith which have been treated by most of the Muslims as SAHIH Authentic instead of holding fast to the ultimate true book the Holy Quran. It is mentioned in this glorious book that if there arises any dispute,misunderstanding or quarrel then refer to Allah and His Messenger.Now Allah's messenger is no more among us so the only way to refer our problems is to adhere to the commandments of Allah through Holy Quran. It would have been more informative if someone had mentioned with reference from Bukhari narrations where our Holy Prophet is portrayed absolutely in a negative way.
I would like to have comments and clarifications from any of the Hadith lovers regarding the under pasted narration from Bukhari.It has been translated by University of South California.
BUKHARI Volume 7, Book 63, Number 182:
Narrated Abu Usaid:
We went out with the Prophet to a garden called Ash-Shaut till we reached two walls between which we sat down. The Prophet said, "Sit here," and went in (the garden). The Jauniyya (a lady from Bani Jaun) had been brought and lodged in a house in a date-palm garden in the home of Umaima bint An-Nu'man bin Sharahil, and her wet nurse was with her. When the Prophet entered upon her, he said to her, "Give me yourself (in marriage) as a gift." She said, "Can a princess give herself in marriage to an ordinary man?" The Prophet raised his hand to pat her so that she might become tranquil. She said, "I seek refuge with Allah from you." He said, "You have sought refuge with One Who gives refuge. Then the Prophet came out to us and said, "O Abu Usaid! Give her two white linen dresses to wear and let her go back to her family."
The translator has used very respectable words but in Arabic the words are abusive.
would some Hadith lover explain this ?
The losers from Persia knew that they will never be able to alter or manipulate the Holy Quran because Allah Almighty has said that "WE have sent it down and WE are its Protectors"So they chose to write books which would divide Muslims in the coming generations.Up till today the people who have never seen the book of Bukhari let alone reading it,quote the narrations with confidence and without shame.
Please ignore any grammatical mistakes as English is not my mother tongue.
May Allah guide us all to the right path.
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ZainabApril 23, 2013 at 8:57 AM
Dear amraza .. As-salaam Alaikum and thank you very much for your intelligent comments. I agree with every word you stated. That hadith you quoted is another horrific lie against our beloved Prophet (sw), a drop in the ocean amidst tons of relentless violations peppered across that evil literature called 'Hadith.' The Hadith lovers, far from explaining the impertinence and depravity of their deviant imams, waste no time attacking the truth-seekers who express their shock and grief at these sinful violations. Our efforts to warn the community against the fraud of Hadith is met with fury, as if we are the violators. The influx of attacks by Hadith lovers on this thread is a classic example of that, to the extent of compelling me to put strict moderating rules of almost all my blog entries on Hadith topics. But such hostilities are trivial issues which can never prevent a truth-seeker from their pursuit of the truth. Alhumdulilah.

If you visit the Hadith board of our discussion forum, Muslim Villa (link given below), you will gain access to a larger variety of information on the corrupt history of Hadith. It is important to know all of that hidden information the clerical circle desperately tries to conceal, so that we understand that we have rejected the Haram institution of Hadith rightly. Otherwise we would be unable to answer the questions of Allah on the Day of Judgment. InshAllah, on the Last Day the beloved Prophet (sw) will himself be a witness against those traducing imams who have mocked the Noble Quran and defamed the final messenger of Allah with such lowly gossips along with those who supported the spread of these falsehoods. InshAllah, ameen.

http://muslimvilla.smfforfree.com/index.php?board=10.0
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ZainabApril 23, 2013 at 9:34 AM
Some Hadith lovers try to justify themselves by claiming they only follow the "authentic" ahadith. Yet they have never explained how a they determine a hadith as authentic or otherwise except for that standard & deceptive label called "isnad" or chain of narrators, a method which is fraught with flaws and anything but foolproof. They proudly call it the "science of hadith" to impress newcomers, hiding the fact that this "science" has more holes in it than a piece of swiss cheese. Anyone can construct a seemingly correct isnad in just 10 minutes with the slightest of knowledge of family & social relationships/status of narrators. What's the big deal in that? But hadith doctors have themselves been stuck in a quandary deciding the cases of those countless hadiths which may have a seemingly correct isnad but the contents are obnoxious and hair-raising! Until now, I have seen no "science" in this eye-wash called "science of hadith."

Even those hadith lovers who claim they accept only "authentic" hadiths are in no hurry to cleanse their hadith literature of the huge bulk of bad ones it contains in the name of "sahih." I ask them why? All hadiths have the same controversial sources and same suspicious backdrop. If a hadith lover's excuse to accept a so-called authentic hadith is their claim that it's compatible with the Quran, then in any case we have the Quran for reference already. Why leave that and go to an outside source creating an avenue for interpolations and contaminating the purity of Allah's Commandments?

The bottom line is, there is no such thing as "authentic" in hadith. Whoever cares to follow the truth will look at nothing else but the Book of Allah. It's only the lukewarm ones who keep glancing at every man-written book & phrase around them and are thoroughly distracted from the Book of Allah.
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AnonymousApril 28, 2013 at 3:05 PM
As Salaam Aleikum, Sister Zainab.

As a Theology graduate (BA/MA), I agree with the rejection of Hadith, and the acceptance of the Qur'an as the ONLY valid source of Islam. To whose words does the honest Muslim pay heed: Allah's or those of the collections of the 'Hadithin'?

Am I Muslim? Allah knows! Certainly, I am Tawhidi, but avoid congregation simply because of sectarianism. All I can do is practice according to my understanding/ ijtihad, rather than obeying the distortions of schismatic traditions, or the dictates of some imam or other. What is really bizarre is that following a conversation about Islam, where I expressed some of my understanding, a Muslim friend once told me that I would be a good imam if I was Muslim! Actually, I have adopted many everyday, mundane aspects of Islam as part of my life. For me, right now, Allah is enough.

All I know, from my own understanding, is that Islam is a way of peace. Not being a speaker/reader of Arabic, I must rely on English interpretations. I have just found this one, http://19.org/books/quran-a-reformist-translation/ , which will likely 'replace' my A.J.Arberry rendition. What do you think of the reformist translation, if you are familiar with it?

Peace and Blessings,

Ismail Salaam
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AnonymousMay 1, 2013 at 9:02 AM
Assalam Alekum

Wallahi. This hadith is truly depressing. I was most dismayed reading it. So much that at first when I read it here a few days ago, I didn't believe that a hadith like this really existed. But then when I did some research with its particulars, I found that you are right. This hadith does exist in the Bukhari book. How could anyone narrate this, much less, how could anyone select it as an authentic narrative regardless of what the "isnad" says? For a correct judgment, the comparison must be made with the Qur'an, not with the "isnad." The Qur'an confirms:

"There hath come unto you a messenger, (one) of yourselves, unto whom aught that ye are overburdened is grievous, full of concern for you, for the believers full of pity, merciful." (9:128).

Then again the Qur'an declares "We sent thee not save as a mercy for the peoples." (21:107).

God Almighty has made it very clear and plain that he sent the Prophet (s) as a mercy to this world. God has also expressed the inner most feelings of the Prophet's heart by stating he is full of concern and pity for the believers. This means that the Prophet was a very gentle and tender hearted person. This has been confirmed by the Divine Power Himself. Then after that, can there be any question of anyone denying that? Yet, Abu Hurairah and Imam Bukhari are accusing the great Prophet of being a cruel arsonist giving orders to burn peoples' homes if they fail to turn up in the masjid for fajr and isha salaat. You are right Sister Zainab. Both these two men are liars. That is the only appropriate word to describe them. If this doesn't mean being a liar, then what does? Can any decent person be obligated to respect this kind of people? As true believers, can it ever be natural for our hearts to feel respectful toward people who talk like this by violating the words of God Almighty, The Highest, and accusing His chosen messenger of cruelty? The narrator and collector of this hadith have both overlooked the words of Almighty God and falsely accused the messenger of ordering the crime of arson. I ask, can any one show respect for such kind of men unless their love for Allah and His messenger is weaker compared to their love for the narrator and the collector of this false story?

Some Hadith advocates may insist that maybe Abu Hurairah did not say this. Some other defenders might profess that maybe Imam Bukhari didn't compile it but someone else compiled it in his name. But I don't care for all that. Obviously someone narrated it and someone collected it within the medieval clerical circle, and all of them belong to the same lot. Moreover, there is no specific evidence to guess that Abu Hurairah did not say this nor any proof that Imam Bukhari did not collect this. Although I have not read the entire collection of Bukhari & Muslim, but I have read quite a few and many of them sound very awkward. So how many times will the hadith advocates keep giving the narrators and collectors the benefit of the doubt by claiming they didn't narrate nor collect?

Thank you Sister. May God Almighty reward you for your eagerness to pursue the truth, for your honesty and for your courage.
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AnonymousMay 1, 2013 at 9:41 AM
It is also disgusting to hear some hadith thumpers claim that hadith is not the problem and not the reason for the downfall of Islam. That's like adding insult to injury. How can they claim that? Hadith is squarely responsible for the ruination of Islam. It is hadith that has completely changed Islam with at least 80% of its rules and laws that are totally unwarranted in the Quran. It's hadith that has made Islam just like christianity and judaism because hadith contents are largely borrowed from the altered bibles. We thank Allah (Subhana wa'Taala) for making a promise to protect the Great Quran forever. It is only because of Allah's promise that we still have the Quran with us, and so we don't care what the hadithists follow. We just ignore them and focus on the Book of Allah. If it wasn't for Allah's promise, then we wouldn't have had the Quran with us today. We would have lost it just as the christians and jews lost their Divine Scripture. The ancient persian imams who came in the 8th and 9th centuries (and who were new converts from the pagan practice of zoroastrism) had exactly the same mentality as the christian and jewish priests & rabbis. They wanted to erase the words of Allah and introduce the words of man. But it is the promise of Allah to protect His Final Book that has saved us. For this reason, bad guys like Bukhari and his successors could not touch the Quran. They invented their falsehoods through the separate channel of hadith for which we don't care. Those who are careless and ignorant enough to accept hadith in their lives will have to answer to Allah for themselves.

All praise be to Allah, The Greatest. Peace and blessings on the final messenger.
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AnonymousMay 1, 2013 at 8:36 PM
@Anonymous dated May 1st and ruhirafay ,, salam and many thanks for your intelligent perception. Allah bless.
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ZainabMay 2, 2013 at 1:41 AM
Thank you from me too, Anonymous May 1st and ruhirafay.
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OzcanMay 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Muslims like Sadiya who make up the overwhelming majority of people who claim to be Muslim are a far greater threat to Islam than all non-Muslim Islamophobes in the world combined.
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AnonymousMay 24, 2014 at 5:33 PM
The Holy Quran states that The Prophet IS free from doing wrong and badness cannot come close to him! As for the hadith stating that the Prophet will burn those who had not left there house or even to use that as an example to state how important namaz is, is just absurd and disrespectful to the Prophet! Again the Quran says My Prophet speaks nothing but WAHI (revelation) “Wa Ma Yantiko Anil Hawa” So sorry to the very 1st comment by anonymous it defies logic….. As for the comment we cannot invalidate a hadith and call Bukhari and Abu Huraira (which is not his name by the way) is in contradiction to the Quran, Surah Munafiqeen states My Prophet there sits among you hypocrites, So the Quran is stating Muhammad there are some SAHABA (people who sit with you) who are hypocrites! It is incumbent upon us as individuals to seek the truth and separate lies, so we cannot agree with your second comment….. as for it needing a scientific method im sorry but it does not need a scientific method as science only discovers what Allah reveals not the other way round! Also point to note the Prophet stated when one comes across a saying of mine relate it to the Quran if it agrees then I have said it, But if it disagrees discard it! Islam did not spread with the sword it spread through the character of himself, and threatening was not a part of that character!
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AnonymousMay 24, 2014 at 5:33 PM
A person who possesses dignity and respect cannot defend Bukhari, and if he does it is proof that he has not read it carefully, the 1st 4 books contain the most disgusting narrations and majorly in contradiction with the Quran its disturbing, I urge you to read if you have not, and find out for yourselves it would not be proper to quote examples here, SO READ FOR YOURSELVES!

I find it quite disturbing that reading a few comments down people are still insisting to remove the word Liars as we cannot call them liars….. I state again the Surah Munafiqeen exposes so called sahabas people who sat with the Prophet day in day out as HYPOCRITES…. Its our Islamic duty to differentiate FALSE from TRUTH! I state again the Quran states attatch yourselves to the truthful ones, in order to adhere to that we MUST seek who is truthful and who is not! The Prophet said LYING was the root of ALL SINS!! He did not state SAHABAS did not Lie, Get a grip of your LOGIC!

IF you read SIRAT UN NABI by Allama Shimli Numani these liars are exposed! The problem is when the Liars are exposed what happens to the Iman of the people who have followed these people blindly with no analysis, reflection…..

Imam Ali said a person who has no knowledge of a particular thing will always reject it! Some of the questions posted mentioning no names are a proof of their own non-existent intellect and rejection without thought or analysis, or reflection, we will believe what the molana saab says but we will not get off our lazy bottoms and find the answer through abit of hard work, or we will waste 3 hours at the cinema but we will not spend and hour or so to find references! One should not set aside precious time for time wasters!
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AnonymousMay 24, 2014 at 5:34 PM
Well calculated Anis respect and gratitude to you….. seen as we are stating statistics im going to state 1 if I may, Bukhari has only narrated 468 hadiths from Abu Huraira if he is AUTHENTIC why has he narrated soooooo little, what is wrong with the rest of his narrations, if they are not worthy of being narrated by SAHIH BUKHARI (lol) then there must be an issue, I will leave you to ponder what the issue is….. The problem is it was not just Abu Huraira at it there were many many others…. There is a so called hadith in bukhari that the Prophet ate mutton forgot to do wudhu and he read namaz, For crying out aloud this contradicts AYATH e TATHIR , there is another hadith that the Prophet used to teach ablution to men and women TOGETHER OMG!!! JUST STOP AND THINK!!!!!

I agree totally Sister Zainab , The Islamic empire was enormous and people were prepared to do whatever it took to grab a piece of govern ship….. Muawiyah says to Imam Ali that I have the morons and simpletons who follow me around while you only have a few learned men follow you so I will be successful, this is a man who in Friday prayers made it incumbent to curse Imam Ali the brother, companion, and caliph of the Prophet, Oh but hang on I thought it was sinful to curse the Sahaba of the Prophet so then why is Muawiyah not punished for this act! I could state more but I know its going to fall on deaf ears sadly…..

The problem is accepting lies has become the norm, now when a lie is pointed out it does not register, for example since childhood up until adulthood we have been told and believe that the LION is the king of the Jungle but no-one stops to think and say ummm hang on the Lion does not even live or go in the jungle, so I guess it’s a difficult task to change peoples understanding even after pointing out the defects and reality that the sun does not shine out of Bukhari…….but through hard work we will succeed…..
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MZIK, Bangladesh.December 6, 2014 at 8:07 AM
Dear All.
Assalamialikum. I assume that, there may be some hadiths (stated by Abu hurayra or Imam Bukhari) which need review. But this does not mean they were liar. And no way, we can degrade the necessity of Hadiths in Islam. Let us talk less and read more. May Allah help us to find the truth. Amin.
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MZIK, Bangladesh.December 7, 2014 at 5:13 AM
Asslamualikum. I appreciate that, sister zainab has a research team. She has discovered some truth which many scholars could not do. I am here to know the truth, no matter, whether i contradict myself or zainab. I ask one simple question to sister zainab and i humbly request for a short/clear ans.

Do you think, Hadiths are necessary for islam? Pl ans....Yes/No

If your ans is No.. it will be unnecessary to discuss any of the hadiths that we have in our collection.
If your ans is Yes...Pl specify the hadiths reference no, which you consider to be wrong/lie. I wana study those hadiths and wana come back again to participate in the discussion.
Thank you.

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ZainabDecember 7, 2014 at 7:20 AM
Also please note .. this blog entry is not about general hadith discussion. It's specifically about this particular false hadith.

For general critical discussions on hadith and why it's an unnecessary interpolation, you will find the relevant topics under "links of interest" on the right side of this page or at Muslim Villa hadith board.
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MZIK,Bangladesh.December 7, 2014 at 7:30 AM
Aslamualaikum. Thank you sister. Your position is amply clear to me now. I have all the good intention to know the discoveries of your research team. I will try to keep track of your discussions. Presently i am following another research center...IRF(Islamic Research Foundation, Mumbai, India). I pray to Allah that, your research will also be able to attract me and many other muslims in near future.
Thank you.
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KhanZaiJanuary 26, 2016 at 5:21 PM
Actually your lot shocks me far more. Rather than us, it might be more likely that Allah Subhanu Wa'Tala may destroy you for ignoring the perfection of His Commandments in preference to the analysis of human clerics. Allah guides those who are worth His Guidance. With your rigid dependency on "tafsir ibn kathir, qurtubi" and so on, you have exposed the depth of your moral lethargy and your utter inability to independently think and reflect (something that's highlighted in the Great Quran again and again), putting yourself in the category of a creature who has rejected The Final Message as the Sole Criterion of right and wrong. Apparently your "criterion" are qurtubi, kathir, Philips etc. etc. and you have opted to be spoon fed with differing human opinions instead of directly accessing the very comprehensive Final Message of the Divine Power and applying your own sense of reasoning based on the dazzling wealth of Quranic information.

Contrary to you and your likes, our Criterion is the The Quran authored by The Almighty, The ONE and ONLY, in which He has asserted His Final Message as the Sole Criterion of right and wrong:
"Blessed is He Who hath revealed unto His slave the Criterion (of right and wrong),.." (25:1).
And thus Allah Almighty has quoted a prophecy in the same Surah about the Day of Judgement when the Final Messenger (pbuh) will say about people like yourself:
"And the messenger saith: O my Rab! Lo! mine own folk make this Qur'an of no account." 25:30.

I earnestly pray Allah guides you even though you have made yourself despicably unworthy of His Guidance.
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ZainabJanuary 26, 2016 at 6:14 PM
@Zaid Khan. Hadith is NOT the sayings of my beloved Prophet (pbuh). And the notion of ""sabaha"" as reflected in the institution of Hadith has been hugely bungled.

The problem with unthinking and bigoted minds of Hadithists makes a sad case. After being swayed by misguidance coming from a torrent of misinformation and personal concoctions of your mullahs, the relation of Hadithists in regard to false "traditions" is the same as the relation which existed between the idolaters and their false deities. This aspect has been highlighted by Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran where He has mentioned about the kuffar that when they are told to focus on Allah alone, they frown and turn away with disagreement. But if a false deity or partner is joined with Allah, then the idolaters happily express their acceptance.

"And when Allah alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are repelled, and when those (whom they worship) beside Him are mentioned, behold! they are glad." (39:45) Az-Zumar.

The mindset of Hadithists has exactly the same ideological approach. The idols of the kuffar-e-Makkah were their stone carved statues; your idols are your sheikhs & imams and their erratic writings. Sheikhs & imams are humans. They are just as capable of erring as anyone else and indeed they err so often. Hanging their diplomas on the walls from costly Islamic universities doesn't impress Allah. Allah looks directly into one's heart & intention. Neither the Hadithists nor the kuffar-e-Makkah can accept to focus on Allah alone which is the essence of the Noble Quran and the essence of Monotheism (Tawheed). How unfortunate!

Instead of loitering around in our blog and typing useless comments devoid of common sense, wake yourself up and study the Noble Quran directly to find out how much there is to learn in it without the interference of substandard tafsirs from self-serving clerics. Allah has also confirmed in Surah 5:3 that the Quran is completed and perfected. It's a Standalone Book. It does NOT need the explanations of humans to be completed. And that's why HE guides those who seek HIS guidance by approaching HIM (and none else) directly.

Life is too short to waste by getting hung up on traditional contents. The kuffar of Makkah wasted their lives saying they would only follow that which their forefathers traditionally followed. You waste you life by getting stubbornly fixated on your sheikhs and imams in the name of 'traditions.'

I seek refuge in Allah from the misguidance of misguided minds.
"My Rab! I seek refuge in You from suggestions of the evil ones," 23:97 Al-Mominun.
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